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[poll] PollPoll Question: Does De Will Palma have a box office hit with "Passion" ?
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Yes, box office shold do very well. [***********] (2 votes, 28.5%)
No, I think it will be a complete commercial flop.[*****] (1 vote, 14.2%)
I expect a moerate hit.[**********************] (4 votes, 57.1%)

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Does De Palma have a hit with "Passion" ?
« Thread Started on Sept 16, 2012, 6:17am »		[Quote]
The first poll from this new De Palma forum! ;)
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Re: Does De Palma have a hit with "Passion" ?
« Reply #1 on Sept 16, 2012, 6:21am »		[Quote]
At imdb.com I can see that moviegoers under 30 have given the film about an 8/10 rating, and the under 18 crowd almost 9/10 so that gives me quite a bit of hope for the potential commercial succcess of this movie. After all, most moviegoers are under 30. (Although not me ,and I go at least once a week ;) )
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Re: Does De Palma have a hit with "Passion" ?
« Reply #2 on Sept 16, 2012, 11:03pm »		[Quote]
You should neither stress over nor concern yourself with the box office performance of Passion. It is more important that the film has integrity, which I feel confident it will. The fact of the matter is DePalma manages to get films financed and made regardless of the fact that Mission: Impossible is his last big hit. Now, I hope he does had a bona fide smash hit with Passion, but the early responses to it make it doubtful this film will be a big hit. One can hope that when all the worldwide grosses are totaled, the film will be profitable and will encourage others to invest in other DePalma films. But as far as the U.S. is concerned, I expect this film to be a moderate to low grosser here. This film just does not seem designed to resonate with U.S. audiences.
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Re: Does De Palma have a hit with "Passion" ?
« Reply #3 on Sept 17, 2012, 3:12am »		[Quote]
Well thanks for putting me straight, Brett! You're right, of course. However, I think De Palma has had enormous problems trying to cast and finance his films lately. Have you forgotten the past five years?? ;)

The Blue Afternoon, Capone Rising, Toyer, The Boston Stranglers, The Key Man and at least two more I can't think of the names of - De Palma had signed on to do all of them. So yes, he needs a hit.

I hope Passion will do reasonably well at least, and assuming HEAT will be a hit ;)
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Re: Does De Palma have a hit with "Passion" ?
« Reply #4 on Sept 17, 2012, 5:55am »		[Quote]
I voted for moderate hit, but I would really love for it to be a huge box office success that would allow De Palma to get a couple of project green lit based on that. I don't think it will happen though. I imagine it making "Femme Fatale" money.
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« Reply #5 on Sept 20, 2012, 6:16am »		[Quote]
Let's hope it doesn't make Femme Fatale-money as that was virtually no money at all! ;) It also made De Palmas string of unsuccessful films a solid three strikes in a row (SE, M2M, FF), with Redacted becoming the fourth. The result of that was in turn a five year hiatus as we know...
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Re: Does De Palma have a hit with "Passion" ?
« Reply #6 on Sept 22, 2012, 9:15pm »		[Quote]
Though in actuality Snake Eyes and M2M were profitable movies. Not running smashes, but definitely profitable. I doubt Femme Fatale or Redacted were profitable, though neither was too costly, either.
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Re: Does De Palma have a hit with "Passion" ?
« Reply #7 on Sept 23, 2012, 2:50am »		[Quote]
I agree with that, but it's a question of perception of bankability. Both SE and M2M were considered flops even though as you said both film probably made a (small) profit. But they certainly didn't meet expectations, which is why they are considered flops.
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Re: Does De Palma have a hit with "Passion" ?
« Reply #8 on Oct 2, 2012, 2:02pm »		[Quote]
So I saw Passion yesterday at the NY Film Festival. The crowd was receptive to it and applauded at the end. So what did I think of it????

Well, I liked it and am eager to see it again as I need to take it all in some more. As with any DePalma film, there is more than meets the eye. On first glance I do not think it's one of DePalma's finest works, but there is a lot of interesting things happening in it. Curiously, the first half of the film has been criticized by some as being too plodding or straightforward and the back-end is all crazy DePalma and exciting. I rather liked the first half! The satire of corporate politics and vicious back-stabbing was fun for me as a corporate guy myself. :)

The second half gets really interesting but I think the film loses of a bit of focus. Again, I need to re-see it to clarify where dreams start and end... and start up again. I won't give away the ending except to say that it was so similar to Dressed to Kill that it made me slightly uncomfortable. Was it a parody? There's certainly a twist. But even the Pino Donaggio score (which I loved overall) employed the same music cues from Dressed to Kill. I will say, it seemed to lack the crispness of DePalma at his best, and yet, there were many fascinating ideas at work, so I don't want to imply that he's gone soft in any way. I'm actually happy to see that many of the critics in NY have responded well to the film.

Will it be a hit? Hard to judge. I think it will get people talking, which is good. Some will love it and others will hate it (what else is new?). I can see it connecting in Europe more than in the U.S. as it has such a sleek Euro feel. At the end of the day, I think the film should do some business and be a modest hit. From an artistic standpoint, I hope the critical chatter is enough to reignite DePalma's career. The man definitely still has a point of view and things left to say.

I think the film owes a lot not just to Love Crime, on which it was based, but also to Robert Altman's 3 Women. If you haven't seen that film, check in out!

In terms of DePalma's work, I think this film aligns closely with Raising Cain. There are also elements of Femme Fatale, though Passion doesn't quite hit the sublime heights of that masterpiece.
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Re: Does De Palma have a hit with "Passion" ?
« Reply #9 on Nov 20, 2012, 6:32pm »		[Quote]
Whoa, I just now discovered this forum! I hope more people join so we can have plenty of good discussions going about De Palma's work!

I voted for moderate hit. I think Passion will do well, but I expect it to only get a limited release in the U.S. Hopefully it will end up being a smash and will be released wider, but I'm not getting my hopes up. As long as the film is good, I don't care how much money it makes, but of course it's important to the people who made the movie. :)
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Re: Does De Palma have a hit with "Passion" ?
« Reply #10 on Nov 23, 2012, 12:53pm »		[Quote]
I hope so. But at the moment I'm most concerned about the possibility of it getting a UK cinema release.
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Re: Does De Palma have a hit with "Passion" ?
« Reply #11 on Nov 27, 2012, 8:18am »		[Quote]

Nov 23, 2012, 12:53pm, mikeuk wrote:
I hope so. But at the moment I'm most concerned about the possibility of it getting a UK cinema release.


True. I am situated in Norway. I really hope this doesn't go straight to video..
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« Reply #12 on Nov 27, 2012, 8:19am »		[Quote]

Nov 20, 2012, 6:32pm, ryanclark wrote:
Whoa, I just now discovered this forum! I hope more people join so we can have plenty of good discussions going about De Palma's work!


Yes, I hope so!

Well, we are already six members I think, so that's a start!
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Re: Does De Palma have a hit with "Passion" ?
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Will it be a hit? Hard to judge. I think it will get people talking, which is good. Some will love it and others will hate it (what else is new?). I can see it connecting in Europe more than in the U.S. as it has such a sleek Euro feel. At the end of the day, I think the film should do some business and be a modest hit. From an artistic standpoint, I hope the critical chatter is enough to reignite DePalma's career. The man definitely still has a point of view and things left to say.

I think the film owes a lot not just to Love Crime, on which it was based, but also to Robert Altman's 3 Women. If you haven't seen that film, check in out!



Thanks for your writeup, Brett!

Since I haven't seen the film yet, I feelI don't have too much to say about it at this stage. But the stuff you wrote about the corporate back stabbing is some of the things I really am looking forward to seeing, as it gives the film a political context.

Three Women, that's interesting...:)

Also really curious to see if I pick up any self-parody, cartainly that seems to have been a huge dividing line in the perceptions of reviewers.. Both in terms of this movie and his career, I suppose, if we think in terms of visual references.
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Re: Does De Palma have a hit with "Passion" ?
« Reply #14 on Nov 27, 2012, 10:11pm »		[Quote]
Hi everyone. I'll admit it, I'm obsessed with "Passion" and I haven't even seen it yet. I want to spread the word about film and so I invite you to join my Facebook page for "Passion." www.facebook.com/backstabbingbusiness

It's the only page for "Passion" on Facebook, so it's a first. lol
The page is full of pics and growing and interesting descriptions that go along with the pic.

Also, please press the "like" button on the page. The more "likes" the better.

Thanks ;)
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